They actually start shipping on that day and continue to assemble and test following items. I decided it wasn't a dealbreaker for me tho. It idles around 60W so it isn’t particularly green, and I think it takes a bit of time to warm up. 2 years ago I was considering Vidar+saga with mine but got the A-S701 for half price. System Setup Computer: Foobar Player -> Chord Mojo -> Schiit Vidar -> Kef LS 50. As with all Schiit products, the white cardboard features minimal packaging … For monoblock performance, try running two Vidar … PYST Cables $20. "Gummy and yummy" could mean a lot of things to different people. It looks great, it’s solidly built and has high-quality components, it can be used in dual mono mode, and it delivers perfectly clean and powerful output. Nobody should report their experiences with things because in the end the only thing anyone really cares about are measurements. I've tried plugging numerous headsets into it (audio/mic) and the audio sounds great, but people say I sound really loud and there's a horrible echo and noise when in game like Call of Duty. Small Size, Big Power. Yggdrasil GS $1599. Equipment Forums. My main concern is that my girlfriend or a house guest would try to listen to some music after it was in cranked for HT and the full 600 watts would blow my speakers and/or wake the neighborhood. It's a speaker amp. I was at the Schitter yesterday and they are having a hard time getting parts. Edit: Thank you for posting your impressions. What's up with that? Great review thanks. Phono. It only takes one part shortage to hold up a products. Bifrost $699. I sold the Vidars and got a pair of Bryston 4B3s. DACs. Maybe it is not true that solid state amps don't really make a difference? They difference they made is that big. TRRS Kit $5. In general, vocals seemed too far forward to the point of stridency, while mids were too far back. … Accessories. I think there's value in answering the question "was it worth the upgrade" as long as you describe what point you're at in the development of your system. Yggdrasil $2449. Comparing a $400 stereo amp to a $700 power amp from two high value brands is not a fair fight. To think that a single part can hold up an entire assembly. Speaker Cable: QED XT-400 Interconnect: AudioQuest - Big Sur Audio 3.5mm to RCA Cable Power (use to trigger power for the Schiit Vidar since it does not have 12 Volts trigger): SYS $49. But if you play loud rock or fusion jazz you will not have enough headroom and one of my Vidars went into thermoprotection will playing Jeff Beck fusion loud. JFET was marginally livelier than passive, but tube was where the real magic was. Aegir $799. My answer is an unqualified “ABSOLUTELY”. Gungnir $899. I don’t think there is anything that these things won’t power, though one may run into some issues when trying to run monoblock with 4 ohm speakers because they aren’t technically rated for that. Specialty Products. Sol $799. Sidebar 1: Specifications Description: Solid-state stereo power amplifier with constant-transconductance output section. PRE-AMP Schiit Freya+ (CBS Hytron 5692 / 6SN7) / AMPs: Rega bio-R, Schiit Vidar x2 (mono blocks), Schiit Aegir x2 (monoblock) X8500H / HP AMP: Schiit Mjolnir 2 (Siemens a-frame E88CC/6922), PrimaLuna Evo 400. Freya + $899. Vidar costs $700 and change with shipping, so they’re close enough in price range that someone shopping for a budget amplifier might ask themselves if it’s worth another $300 to take their game up a notch. So what are people doing for 12v triggers to control the power state on the Vidar? Said it ships January 15th when I bought it. Our primary goal is insightful discussion of equipment, sources, music, and audio concepts. JFET and passive are immune that interference, but even in JFET mode home theater sounded a bit thin and dry. Or how are you running two Vidars in mono configuration out of it? … Yeah, would love to have just provided some quantitative measurements but I'm afraid I don't have a tech bench. Maybe a dollar a month more than a class d amp, Yeah, it's kind of annoying. If you have any questions about the Bryston or the Freya I’ll happily answer. Mani $129. Joined Jan 16, 2009 Posts 84 Likes 13. Ears validate the measurements, not the other way. post-13173860. Gummy and yummy. 1 Vidar vs. 2 Vidar monoblocks: I tried going back to the Emotiva from my Vidars and entertained the possibility of returning/selling them and saving 1100-1200 bucks after restocking fees and return shipping which would likely be gargantuan for these heavyweight blocks of metal. Bass is significantly boomier and entirely effortless. Remote Controls $18. The Schiit Vidar is an example of one of their high-end power amplifiers, retailing for an affordable $700. Review: Schiit Vidar Power Amplifier. I thought it was helpful. It idles around 60W so it isn’t particularly green, and I think it takes a bit of time to warm up. I'm not a professional so please don't be dicks. Specialty Products. The Vidar was comparatively rich with vibrant color and dynamics. Saga + $399. Parts shortages, they have no back up inventory and at this point are directly shipping everything they make. Post #8 of 2,091 Synergist969 100+ Head-Fier. Thanks! They were all purchased in the late 70's and I am ready to start my upgrade process. Protip: if you get freya, get better tubes. Comparison with other upgrades: I’ve also recently acquired a new (to me) preamp (Bryston BP17), which I was testing along with a Schiit Freya. These were almost certainly not the same SPL, but are "the same" in that they are my ideal listening level for each combination. I appreciate the review and that you took the time to put the upgrade in perspective with the preamps. Okay well there is a real potential benefit to differential signals, but for home use, just buy what sounds good to you, or buy because you enjoy the hobby. The Schiit Vidar is a compact amp coming with a 600VA transformer. Before anyone gets angry, I’m not complaining I’m just curious if anyone with more experience can provide some insight. I pushed the Vidar really hard and was unable to trip its protection mechanism. Brock63 12 Brock63 12 Member; Members; 12 16 posts; Posted November 9, 2020. I currently own an emotiva a300 and would not consider the vidar until they come up with a revised edition when my amp sounds fairly good at $300 less. I ordered a Vidar beginning of January to go with my Freya I bought second hand(really like it!). Compared with the Vidar, the Emotiva is very “pale”, like looking through a pair of hazy-white eyeglasses, lacking contrast and detail. I think you chimed in on the last Vidar post so thanks for following through on the impressions. That's awesome. I actually really liked Freya. Schiit co-founder and Vidar designer Jason Stoddard has sidestepped potentially spiralling chassis and cooling costs by folding the heatsink into the chassis’ structure whilst holding the amplifier circuit to a single PCB, thus simplifying production. Also does your AVR have xlr output? PC --> Topping D90 --> *Denafrips Hyperion* and Schiit Vidar --> Magnepan 1.7i and *Tekton Lore Reference* Mac --> SMSL Sanskrit 10th MKII --> SA300 --> * = Hasn't arrived yet. Preamps & EQ. This would be a no-brainer if it had a built-in 12v trigger... Wonder why they left this feature off. Yggdrasil Analog 2 $650. That being said, I feel Freya is an excellent deal for the money and a great choice if those things I mentioned aren't issues for you. Do their back orders takes months and is this kind of thing normal? H. hyfynut Member. Emotiva amps measure well but not great. Is your Vidar dead silent out of the AVR pre-outs in stereo configuration (rca)? Cookies help us deliver our Services. Mani $129. However, I think that this does illustrate the limitations of subjective reviews, because it takes a lot of imagination on our part to interpret some of your descriptions and metaphors. … Loki $149. So if they don’t have parts they don’t ship. Lee Shelly Connectivity is straightforward, there's a pair of RCA inputs, one XLR input for mono operation, and a pair of speaker wire binding posts. Joined Jun 17, 2009 Messages 274 Reaction score 33 Location … Accessories. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Schiit Fulla 3 - Mic Echo/Really Loud Hey guys, I have a brand new Schiit Fulla 3. I'm eyeballing some Schiit amps (the Vidar and Aegir) and was looking for some input here from someone that owns one or has heard one in action.....or just a strong opinion on them. Phono. Voltage gain: 22dB. I tried listening to the Emotiva A-300, 1 Vidar, and 2 Vidars with the Bryston, the Schiit, and just my old Marantz AVR. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts ... Just got my Bifrost 2 and Asgard 3 (no DAC module) today and was testing out the stack of schiit and all was going well for about 10-15 minutes, which I heard a loud popping / crackling noise. One issue, however, is that the tubes pick up noise easily and were unusable when my 64 inch plasma was on (right next to it). Vidar $699. Jan 14, 2017 at 1:52 PM. I started out using a pair of Schiit Vidars as monoblocks. In monoblock configuration these beasts are probably putting nearly 600 watts into my 6 ohm speakers. This is the part where we have to say yes, that really is the company’s name and yes, it is pronounced like you think it is. Reddit has many popular and very active subreddits that you can follow to daily updates. The Aegir is the class a bias version of Schiit’s Vidar. Freya has no HT Bypass, so for HT I had to crank it full power and control the theater with the volume control on the AVR. Yggdrasil $2449. … I have never experienced this kind of big difference myself by switching amplifiers, but I keep seeing theese kind of posts, which to me seem like pure placebo, but maybe I haven't seen enough. Schiit offered to mod the Rag1 so that it would work with the Vidars, but I decided to go with the Freya instead and sell the Rag - the headphone output didn't mean that much to me. SYS $49. Based on my testing with 86 dB efficient 4 ohm speakers, I believe the Vidar will work without triggering protection for most people using this configuration. Preamps & EQ. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Wilson WATT Puppy 7, Rega RS1, Spendor S3/5R, Technics SL-10>MoFi Studiophono>Hood 1969>SoundArtist SC8B. That is a sure sign of high bias into Class A. Schiit Audio has always toyed with the idea of separates as a natural progression upward in their product lines. I own two schiit products and I have never had anything close to hum. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote; Share this post. My two Vidar monoblocks are replacing an Emotiva BasX A-300 poweramp, which puts out 150 watts per channel @8ohms and doubles to 300 watts at 4. Awesome write-up. While smaller, budget aspirations like the $99 Fulla headphone amp/dac have always been around, much more online buzz (and most likely sales) have revolved around the buzz-worthy Schiit-stack of $99 separates, standalone ladder dacs … Not a bug - part of the design. They explained that they usually get the parts a some time before the date and start the assembly right away. In fact, I’m still thinking of selling my Bryston because the Vidars driving the preouts on $600 AVR from Best Buy sounded incredible. Flexible Design for Stereo and Mono. When you use the Vidar with a single-ended preamp like Schiit’s Saga, you can enjoy a complete system. I’ll be absolutely clear, the Vidar monoblocks made a significantly larger, more musical, and unforgettable difference in my experience than getting a fancy preamp like the Bryston or the Schiit. However, I mostly just spent time cycling through a folder of test tracks and constantly choosing volumes I enjoyed best for every device and track. The major downsides with the Vidar is that it generates quite a bit of heat and has no standby mode or trigger port. Schiit has been good about not making ridiculous claims. February 26, 2019 1:44 PM UTC November 28, 2017 3:30 PM UTC by Guido Gabriele. B … In 4 Ohms, it doubles to 200W per channel. I’ll save you my thoughts on the Bryston, which I ultimately kept. Getting back into vinyl so I dusted off my old Kenwood KA 701, JBL 110's and a Technics SLQ3. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Schiit Vidar Outlaw RR2160. The Schiit Vidar power amplifier. They offer balanced as an option, along with other options at lower price points. Don’t get me wrong, Vidar monoblocks are more of everything that makes the Vidar better than the A-300. The Schiit products come well packaged in a large cardboard box. If I really needed to, however, I could go back to 1 Vidar from 2. It definitely made an improvement when I started running my L/R front channels from the preouts on my Marantz NR-1604 (entry-level slimline AVR) through it. Oct 25, 2020 #205. If you can afford to spend an extra $300 on an amp, then you should seriously consider Vidar. As an audio reviewer, this first paragraph is like a rite of passage: our first review of a Schiit product. This seems both like a reasonable cost compared to the headphones at a really good performance level, and I like the idea of going balanced all the way through. I was going to purchase one here soon myself so I would like to know as well. Be patient, the wait is worth it. My AVR doesn't have XLR outputs (though the Bryston and Freya do), so while Vidar wasn't running balanced it still got a big bump in output when wiring for mono configuration at the positive speaker terminals. I appreciate the review. Reddit is like a community of highly-active forums in every popular topic around the world. I love that it idles at 60 watts. (They post about it on head-fi.). Upgraded the Technics with a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB just recently. How does the Freya compare in passive, JFET, and tube? The Schiit Vidar is well worth the money and customer service is very responsive. Sol $799. Loki $149. I have a ground loop issue that I still haven't worked out yet, but of all the configurations I tried it was least problematic with the Vidar. As I mention in my post I can hear a rather loud buzzing in such configuration with a Denon AVR. Still, I believe the Freya is an excellent value for the money as long as you're okay with 1) staying in tube mode, 2) not part of a home theater, and 3) don't have children or pets who might be interested in very pretty, very hot glowing tubes. TRRS Kit $5. Inputs: 1 pair single-ended (RCA), 1 balanced (XLR, for use in bridged-mono mode). I have one Vidar and a Saga on the way after comparing a bunch of integrateds and deciding just to go for the Schiit. Frequency response: 20Hz 200kHz, 0.1dB. Well it sounded better. I think this goes to show that there's more to an amp than just being better than a nominal 0.1% THD. Press J to jump to the feed. Considering how many people are having problems with the vidar I can't believe that schiit is really not getting on top of this. Blacks are blacker, whites are whiter, reds are redder, blues are bluer, etc. First, let me say that these are my first “audiophile” amplifiers so I don’t have a whole lot to compare it to. Jotunheim R $799. The only aspects of the Freya that I was disappointed in were the passive and JFET modes. My speakers are Sonus Faber Venere 3.0, which are 6 ohm, so let’s call it 225 watts per channel. I couldn't get by without a trigger port or front-facing switch on something that gets this hot, but I think it's good that Schiit, along with Emotiva, is creating more options and competition in this range. Modi $99. Tubes $10. Vidar $699. I did! Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum) Thread starter mattcalgary; Start date Aug 8, 2017; post-13648284. Modius $199. Modi $99. In no way do I mean what I'm about to say as a criticism of you, because you did your best to put your experience into words and to share it with us. It looks like a near twin of the Schiit Vidar ($699, £700, AU$1,199), but while Vidar is a 100 watt per channel stereo amp, the more-expensive Aegir is just 20 watts per channel. Headphones: Meze Empyrean / HD800s / Focal Utopia Speakers: Elac Vela BS403.2, FS407, CC401, Carina BS243.4, PSB Imagine T2, Imagine Mini / Subs: SVS SB-3000 x2 . Although it’s small, it serves as a powerhouse that delivers 100W per channel in 8 Ohms. Both of those devices did significantly change the sound signature of the music, but honestly I could do without a dedicated preamp. Also, the tubes run very, very hot. i couldn’t wait for the Lintons to arrive so I hooked the Aegir up to my Kef R3. After 15th it went to ships in 7-10 days. You cannot expect more at this price point." Schiit Vidar is a great choice if you are an audiophile on a budget or if you are trying to find your first entry-level audiophile-grade power amp. If I had to choose between getting 1 Vidar and 1 preamp versus 2 Vidars and 0 preamps, I’d get two Vidars. But gain is still too much for headphones. Wall-Warts $10. Yowza. Seems like covid, supply issues for shipping materials, and a holiday backlog have combined to really slow down their usual speediness. Bass extension was fuller and less effortful. Saga + $399. 20 watts @ 8 Ohms and 40 in to 4. They are a small company. First orders in the batch get shipped first. Schiit Audio Vidar Power Amplifier Review. If Vidar can best the Parasound Halo A23, that will be impressive. it shouldn’t work. Jotunheim R $799. Freya + $899. Outputs: 1 pair five-way binding posts. Last edited: Jul 19, 2017. Hobbyists enjoy fiddling, not because we expect magic to happen, but because we enjoy experimenting. Yggdrasil Analog 2 $650. With this amp, users get class A/B amplification with a dual mono design that outputs 100W into 8 Ohms or 200W into 4 ohms. Ragnarok $1499. r/audiophile is a subreddit for the pursuit of quality audio reproduction of all forms, budgets, and sizes of speakers. Had a second listen to Vidar today with other speakers. I upgraded from a dedicated AVR (HK3490) that's now being used solely as a pre-amp dac/volume control for the vidar. Head-Fier. purr1n, Jul 19, 2017 #83. I’ll save you my thoughts on the Bryston, which I ultimately kept. Upgrades. If you are lower on the list you gotta wait. Everything is deeper, richer, fuller. I have a sensing power strip, but nothing in the audio-only "music listening" config draws enough power to trigger it. Midrange seemed more forward and detailed, creating an overall much more complex musicality. For the most part they were fine. Power output: 20Wpc into 8 ohms (13dBW), 40Wpc into 4 ohms (13dBW). Joined Jan 16, 2009 Messages 84 Reaction score 13. mattcalgary. Thread Starter Post #1 of 10 mattcalgary Head-Fier. Using a Schiit Vidar to power a ls50's for my desktop setup. 10 watts pure class a standing bias. Well, sometimes the measurements keep us honest. Since then I have not been able to get any audio out of the Bifrost. My current prospective choice is the Schiit Jotunheim 2 with the Schiit Modius. IIRC there was a quiet buzzing around 32-34 db (measured at the midrange cone with a db meter), which is not very noticeable from the listening position. Thanks for this, I'm very interested in this amp. These are 87 Db and although 8 Ohm nominal the impedance curve is gnarly and they dip to 3.2 Oh but it does work. Tubes $10. As you know, "worth it" for someone that's been tweaking for a decade and is now searching for that 1% improvement might be very different to someone that just switched from an AVR to separates. Aug 8, 2017 at 1:48 PM. If you play classical or jazz at reasonable volumes you should be ok, and mine were ok. I'd say it's neutral, maybe even very slightly warm, with neutral speakers. SRV’s Tin Pan Alley was borderline unlistenable, while being so much more lush and enveloping with the Vidar. Review of the Schiit Audio Freya +, Freya S, Saga + and Saga S preamps. I just can’t do it. I had a similar situation with my Modi Multibit and emailed them about it. Share This Post Reactions: ToddRaymond. Think of it as one 60 watt light bulb. DACs. Definitely not kid or pet friendly. Ragnarok $1499. Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Schiit Vidar Impressions in 2.0 Home. I don't know what to believe anymore, honestly. She's beautiful and sounded quite nice, though I think a tube upgrade is necessary to really make her sound her best. Shit sucks with Covid but what can you do?? According to Schiit, "Vidar will probably work fine at sane volumes, but at higher output, you may trigger the protection." Hi everyone, now that I’ve had my Vidars for a week and change I'm going to write a review. Upgrades. Slam? Box and design. Gungnir $899. 1 Vidar in stereo vs. Emotiva A-300: The Emotiva is a $400 stereo amp and generally reputed to be a good value. I'm sure reviews with measurements will come, and in the meantime, it's good to hear about your positive experience. Yggdrasil GS $1599. In the end I went with the Bryston because my system is also a home theater. Don't have a big budget compared to many on this forum, however, I will share with you what I am considering. I tried listening to the Emotiva A-300, 1 Vidar, and 2 Vidars with the Bryston, the Schiit, and just my old Marantz AVR. If you have any questions about the Bryston or the Freya I’ll happily answer. Forums. Stadia controller bluetooth. PYST Cables $20. I ordered a Vidar … Press J to jump to the feed. Still, at 700 it's a great choice for a dedicated 2 channel system. Not normal. Thanks in advance. I was eyeing the Vidar, but unless I can come up with some sort of automated power-on it doesn't look like it'll be viable due to that idle dissipation. Wall-Warts $10. DC offset and operating temperature oversight comes from an adjacent (and independently powered) microprocessor circuit. Remote Controls $18. The Emotiva did pretty well with electronic music, but really fell short on instruments and vocals. I believe I have a good ear for this kind of stuff, because most people around me don't even appriciate the difference between some cheap white van speakers(which my father had bought, because of WAF) in our HT and my personal setup (whichs is conveniently right next to my name). Oppo BDP-93 > Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC > McIntosh C-46 Pre-amp > Schiit Vidar (x2) > B & W 805D + JL Audio E112 Subwoofers (x2); Equitech Son of Q; PS Audio P5; Wireworld and Cardas cabling. What a nice speakers with sub Bifrost $699. Let me get straight to the point here: Two Vidars in monoblock configuration sounded FANTASTIC coming right out of my old Marantz. Joined Feb 19, 2020 Messages 17 Likes 15. Dino likes this. I will also compare two Vidar monoblocks to a single Vidar running in stereo mode. No Class D, no switching supplies, no fans, no compromises, nothing in the signal path but music—for a three-figure price tag. Maybe 'boomier' isn't the right word. I tried to use the Rag as a pre-amp into the mono'd Vidars, but there was/is DC on the Rag1 XLR outputs that put the Vidars into protection. Did you ever use the Freya/Vidars with balanced connections?
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